31 December 96
SWC Ganges @ 5:00 PM PST
Special Forum to get people focussed on what we would like to manifest in 1997. What resolutions and commitments can we make to jointly start the processing of making COMMUNITY a "reality" in our lives. If not US, whom. If not NOW, when. Remember what Goethe said about "boldness". It is TIME for such a bold new beginning. Let us do what it takes to "make it so"
This was a special Community Forum that I wanted to do tonight to provide a framework for what we would like to manifest in 1997. I don't know that it accomplished this, but I found it an enjoyable way to end the year. Thanks daysi and flower for joining in so that I did not have to do a monologue two nights in a row. LOL!!!
I still have an overwhelming sense that 1997 is to be a YEAR OF SPIRITUAL MANIFESTATION. My resolve is FIRM. I will do whatever it takes, whatever spirit moves me to do, to facilitate this manifestation in whatever manner is appropriate for the circumstances.
lion: Resolutions are things that we are RESOLVED TO DO! Given that, what are YOU
resolved to do in the year that lies ahead? What will you do that makes a positive difference to
not only your life, but to the lives of others as well?
lion: If this interests you, please contribute and leave your responses here. I'll be back in a little over 90 minutes [5 PM PST] to see what's been added and to facilitate further discussion on this topic. NAMASTE!
TO A MIRACULOUS NEW YEAR!!
lion: Hmm... returned as promised, but I see that no one else has posted anything on the topic. Surely people are moved and RESOLVED to DO SOMETHING in 1997. I just can't believe that this can be so important to me yet it might not be so for others. Hmm...
lion: OK. Personally, I am committed to pour whatever energy is required into nurturing The Search for Center; this involves publishing a monthly newsletter that continues to improve each month through September. When I started, I committed myself for carrying it through an entire year. My commitment was to spirit ... I will honor it.
lion: This also involves leading Community Forums each week ... LOL!!! Even if no one else shows up. Interesting ... but it seems to make no difference to spirit whether others are present or not. She still expresses what she will.
lion: I also have a larger commitment to BEYOND IMAGINATION. That commitment requires that I DO whatever spirit moves me to do with respect to establishing the foundations that permit SPIRIT to be more fully expressed in flesh. This is why I am here to begin with. This is my task. And it seems that 1997 is the year for the manifesting to begin.
lion: Namaste daysi and shadow!
lion: For those who catch this later, clicking on lion allows you to enter my world. The URL for BEYOND IMAGINATION is http://www.redshift.com/~beyond and for THE SEARCH FOR CENTER is http://www.redshift.com/~beyond/NEWS
daysi: Hi lion. Haven't talked with you for a while!
lion: Interesting that the end of 1996 has me dressed completely in black, with consciousness as my only companion, as is the case so often and has been the case for most of my life. Hmm...
lion: True daysi ... actually, it seems that I go a long time without talking to anyone except the source inside myself. :)
daysi: lion, I have moved and have been off the net for about 6 weeks. I just added your URL. Glad to be back. I'll check your site often, love
lion: So, what brings you here so close to the close of another year?
lion: Glad you are back daysi. Do checkout The Search for Center Newsletter. I think you'll enjoy what you find there.
daysi: lion, have you been to #bridge lately?
lion: No daysi, I don't have IRC right now. I moved as well. Got a new job on 11/11 after being unemployed for 3 months. It has been an interesting year.
daysi: lion, some of us have to be close to Source. I hope your being dressed in black means you are being a serious thinker while so many of us are losing track of all consiousness on this new years eve!!
lion: I am looking forward to what lies ahead. The sense is that we are embarking on a grand voyage that will lead us to a far better world ... even if that world occupies this very place where we now stand. LOL!!
lion: I love BLACK! To me it symbolizes all that is good about DEATH. But, I see death not in physical terms, but as a transformation of consciousness that we experience HERE and NOW within these very bodies that permits us to truly tap into spirit and express whatsoever she wishes to express through us.
daysi: lion, what is your new job like? change is necessary. I hope yours was interesting and leading in the right direction
lion: This is how we manifest the directive "be in this world but not of this world". What matters always is how spirit expresses through us. Such is what gives our lives true value and meaning.
lion: Actually, the job is pretty much what I was doing before. The company is different, as is the location, but the customer is still the same organization within the Air Force. My present office is less than 100 feet from where it was 10 years ago when I was in the Air Force.
lion: The "unemployment time" gave me the opportunity to give birth to a new expression that is THE SEARCH FOR CENTER. So, overall the change has been very good. Also, the working environment here is GREAT!!! This is the best job I have ever had.
daysi: lion, the circle of life? Who knows. I think your new job only supports you while you do your "real" job. Right?
lion: Thank you for coming by. It makes it a lot easier to carry on a conversation when another person is involved. It is not required, but it sure helps. :)
daysi: I know another person is not necessary. Some of the most enlightening conversations I have ever had were with my inner self.
lion: You hit the nail on the head all right!!! Very perceptive of you. Though, it has other beneficial aspects. It allows me to learn how to manage myself more effectively so that I can get the most out of each day. This allows me to get a lot done at work, but even more done on "spirit's" time.
daysi: Inner self gets tiresome though. I want to talk to another human of like mind some time!!
lion: daysi: but I have over 2000 pages of such conversations in 3 years. It is really time for me to stretch my wings and find others to discourse with.
lion: Hmm ... don't know that I would use "tiresome", but are thoughts were pretty close. :)
daysi: I know. A "real" job keeps me on schedule and focused. Allows me to set aside some time each day for serious work on myself.
lion: Namaste Zazen and rose2! Welcome!
lion: Oops ... guess you can tell that I write what I "hear" in my head. "are" and "our" are equivalent to me when I'm focussed on allowing the expression through.
daysi: Don't worry that much about spelling, lion. We all understand phonetics
lion: daysi: How long have you been engaged in work to "know thyself"?
daysi: Off and on for as long as I can remember. I get side-tracked for months some times.
daysi: We have to spend some time doing those things that are necessary for just existance occasionally, you know
lion: For me, it is especially rough. At work, I rarely make such mistakes ... never use spell checkers or grammar checkers. However, when spirit moves me, my experience is that I "hear" a voice and my mind and fingers are employed to record that voice. By the way, I never have the sense that this voice is "me" or created by me. I am the recipient of the communication, not its originator.
lion: YES, I know. I just like to MINIMIZE what time I spend doing such things. So far, it has worked quite well. :)
lion: So, do you have any plans for bringing in the NEW YEAR?
daysi: I know what you mean. When I hear that inner voice it always comes from the source. I used to try to convince myself it was my imagination, but I is more important than just my mind exercising itself
lion: Do you have any RESOLUTIONS for 1997 that you are comfortable sharing?
lion: Namaste flower!
flower: tehete lion
daysi: I have resolved to find a group of actual living persons who accept my beliefs. IE. a church, maybe. Some group, anyway.
daysi: Hi, flower. Bloom with me!
lion: WOW daysi! I really haven't found more than a few others that have that understanding of source ... or that have been able to relate it like that. It sounds like you've reached some important realizations. GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!
flower: of couse daysi .... your resolution sounds like a good one
daysi: lion, I get lonesome just knowing what I know without someone else to share with. Don't you?
lion: One of mine is similar. Though, I'm not sure about finding such a group. The sense that comes to mind is more in terms of "create or manifest" such a group.
flower: this is a warm room
daysi: flower, what is your resolution? (if you can share one with us)
flower: ask that people of like mind be drawn to you, and they will come to you
daysi: flower, It has to be warm here. otherwise we couldn't bloom.
flower: i don't have a resolution... most people wish to lose weight ..... workout.... whatever .... something that dies in a few days or weeks..... me, I just want to keep learning and growing
lion: Yes daysi. I consider myself a HERMIT, big time. It has been this way all of my life. For over a year now, I have been moved to find others ... to find my spiritual family. But, I am still very much alone. I've found a few people that I communicate with ... but none yet that I would consider truly connected to source.
daysi: lion, flower has hit the nail on the head. Maybe this should be our resolution
lion: flower: it seems mere asking is not enough ... either that or the time delay can be years.
flower: okay .... it's cozy in this room .... comfortable .... it's been a while since i've felt that in chats
daysi: lion, I am not looking for people who are even totally connected. Just people who are open. People like this have been always hard to find for me.
lion: hmm... I have been learning and growing all of this life and many others as well. That is NOT enough for me either. I am here to DO something this time. I came for a purpose. My sense is that this involves creating the very foundations that allow the Aquarian Age to finally dawn.
daysi: flower and lion, have you noticed finding like minded people is sooooo easy on the net. Surely we are not destined to find our spiritual families on the net.
flower: have you tried asking in ritual form?
lion: That's great flower ... where spirit expresses, it should feel cozy and comfortable. Like truly being HOME.
flower: I seem to be surrounded by spiritual people .... in every day life
flower: this room used to be my meeting ground with friends .... it's been quite a while ..... but i see warmth is still here
daysi: lion, I think we usually don't realize when we have done what we were sent to do. I would like to create an Aquarian atmosphere also, but I think even if I do, I won't realize I have. I'll be gone somewhere else by the time my work comes to fruition
flower: most of my spiritual friends are involved in the SCA ... you may want to check out your local group
flower: my e mail address
daysi: flower, what is SCA?
flower: I feel the need to share it with you guys
lion: Hmm... it seems that it happens when the time is right. My sense is that we create such happening by cooperating on inner levels. As to it being easy on the net, I'm not so sure. My Beyond Imagination site has been online over a year. I have over 2000 pages of material. Total feedback in a year would easily fit on one page. I try to make it so that I come across as approachable, and I invite feedback. However, it just doesn't happen ... or it hasn't much anyway. For chats, I almost always start by myself and see who comes to join me. :)
flower: society for Creative Anachronisms .... it's medieval re-enactment
daysi: flower, go ahead
daysi: lion, for everyone who gives feedback, 100 others have visited, I think.
flower: I like to go to rooms with less people ...... you get to know people better
lion: Hmm... spirit has come through with a very explicit time-table for me. I have been moved to understand time as a measure of the level of awareness that is being expressed. Right now, my sense is that my current mission carries me through 2026, but there are many milestones and significant events/accomplishments that will occur on the way. 1997 and 1998 are particularly important in the PLAY that consciousness hath wrought.
daysi: flower, I know what you mean. When there are fewer people we all have time to think before we respond. not so much idle chatter.
lion: In my case, more like 1000 + hits for each feedback.
flower: daysi, we get dressed up in garb .... clothing from the period ..... we throw on accents ..... we give ourselves personas ..... mine there is Kerowyn ...... and we have fun ....... the people are generally very open ...... and you'll find that many of them are spiritual ....... where are both of you located?
daysi: lion, do you have a sense of why it is so important for you to keep to this time-table?
flower: I seem to have come in during the midst of you two speaking ..... I am not exactly sure of all that you are talking about ..... but I feel a strange connection ....... it's nice
lion: Me too! I find it far easier to be really involved one-on-one and then in small groups. E-mail is my preferred mode of communication. A lot can be communicated that way in very little time. I still make e-mail a very high priority task. I get to it quickly and respond quickly.
daysi: flower, I am near Nashville where there is a medieval fair each year put on by members of SCA. Do you know Latin?
flower: lion.... you need to know that as things change you need to adjust your time line
daysi: excellent thought, flower!
flower: no, I do not know latin ...... because of my persona .... I am an irish lass ...... but otherwise I am itlian and german ..... I speak no other language than english ..... sigh
lion: It is not my time table. Time is simply a measure of awareness. For us to reach a given time, the collective awareness much reach a given state that consciousness has planned. My understanding of the meaning of numbers and cycles gives me some insight as to where the Play is headed. To date, though, I speak a tongue that no one else I have encountered knows how to speak.
flower: It's the way I do things daysi ..... I am generally a narrow focuser when it comes to doing things. ... but you need to adjust whwn things change or you will be in a rut ..... I am learning
flower: what tongue is that?
flower: do either of you know how to communicate with spirits?
daysi: flower, I don't know how to communicate at will. Every so often it just seems to happen for me.
lion: flower: when I started learning how to interpret numbers, I made a lot of mistakes about what various times meant. At one time I thought 1998 would be it for me, then 2002, then 2005, then 2007, then 2012. Now I realize that all of these are important transition times. They may involve major awakening or deaths of psyche for me so that I can express more ... but they are not the end of my current physical existence. I believe this to be out around 2026. We'll see if this changes as that time gets closer.
daysi: lion, do you know? Hi lennon
flower: I seem to be getting a bit friendsly with a couple of spirits ..... I've been trying my hand at channeling ..... but it's a slow process of learning it
flower: so you seem to pick up on future dates ,...... i've just been learning how to look back on situations inmy life and seeing how they have shaped me .....
daysi: lion, are you sure your time-table is the same one we use here on earth. You know, 24 hrs. a day, 7 days a week?
lion: flower: it is the tongue of spirit herself as she speaks through the numbers and symbol systems in our world. Numerology and the Tarot provided a starting point. But I quickly went beyond the books based on direct quidance from spirit herself.
And flower, it is not just future dates ... dates back through my birth and parents births, and significant historic dates all have meaning too.
flower: one of my spirit companions speaks elven ..... another friend has channeled him in many times ...... and he speaks with the tongue .... it reminds me of german ..... tehete is an elven word
daysi: lion, it is hard for me to understand how important you feel time is because I am learning disabled in math.
flower: My spirit companions seem to have taken me much further then I would have gone otherwise too
lion: Sorry. No, I don't communicate with "spirits" as far as I know. My only connection is with source. I sense source as a feminine spiritual essense. She is not a separate being. But, neither is she within me. Somehow, I have an inner connection through which she can speak to me. That is how I experience it anyway.
flower: can you tell me more about this feminine essence lion?
flower: do you feel her .... like an empath ..... do you hear her ...... or do you get thought from her?
daysi: flower, that is why spirit companions come to us. They take us farther than we can imagine on our own
flower: yes daisy ... spirit companions are our greatest teachers ..... you just have to be open to their existence and you must accept them when they ent3er
daysi: flower, being accepting is very important. It can be frightening when a spirit speaks to you. You can want to run and hide!!!
lion: OK daysi. I have refused to where a watch for over 15 years now. Time itself and its passage is NOT important at all to me. Spirit determines exactly what gets done at what time. Numbers have always been fascinating to me. I was a genius at math. Now, I have found that numbers are symbols that have meaning that goes beyond their use in arithmetic. Each number is a Tarot Card, along with all the symbology on those cards. Each can convey spiritual meaning. License plates, SSNs, serial numbers on bills, account numbers, totals on any receipts at the stores, number of days since one was born, virtually any numbers in our lives can have spiritual meaning. Note the CAN HAVE ... they do not always have meaning. Further, the meaning may not be revealed until the appropriate time. Also, additional meanings may come out over time.
flower: my sweets just got here so I am going to have to get going soon
daysi: lion, are you still there?
flower: yes it can be frightening when a spirit speaks with you .... but the key thing is to remain calm and don't show your fear ..... especially when it is one of a not so good light ...... lion .... you are fascinating
daysi: But, lion, numbers are almost frightening to me. I remember all those "C's" in math, I guess.
daysi: flower, hope to speak with you again! Have fun
flower: some people are afraid of numbers ..... some are afraid of astrology ....... others tarot ....... numbers arent' your strong points ....... but I am sure you have other things that are
flower: will be leaving in bout ten minutes ..... he needs to shower before we go out
lion: I hear her, but it happens in my brain, much like all of my thoughts. I have always felt her to be feminine. I have no experience with any masculine spiritual energies. I'm not sure why that is, but such is what I experience. I found it interesting to note recently that HER MIT is the MIT(glove) of HER. (* BIG SMILE *) Not the hand of her!!! Only the glove that she wears. Very appropriate. This describes my experience of the process/relationship exactly!
lion: daysi: that is fine. Numbers happen to be MY WAY. Each of us must find what our unique gifts are ... and then how best to use those gifts in service to spirit.
flower: very interesting lion ..... if you pick up on her ..... you should have no problem picking up on other spirits ... spirits thoughts can get mixed up with your own ...... most people dismiss them as nonsense ..... or their own ..... in fact .... it is a spirit communicating with us ...... it's shuffling out what is there ..... your feminine companions seems good ..... good luck with her
daysi: lion, maybe if your experienced her in actuallity it would be frightening. The spirits I have encountered have usually been of no discernable sex.
lion: NAMASTE FLOWER! See what I have to say at Wayne's Page You can e-mail me from there if you'd like.
flower: I have seen both sexs of the spirit world ..... I mostly come into contact with males ...... but I do have some female ones as well
daysi: lion, do you have visions and sensation in vivid colors?
flower: can I get your e mail from your name? ... .I bookmared the page alread
flower: Okay .... he's ready ..... I gotta go ....
lion: Interesting flower! But my sense of things is that my experience of being the HERMIT makes me so focussed on THE ONE, that there are no other spirits there. To me, there is only ONE consciousness, ONE mind. This source feeds all of our thoughts, period. I have no firsthand awareness of ever creating thoughts, only of experiencing them.
lion: daysi: No, no "visions" at all. Nothing that involve pictures or shapes or colors. I "hear" things ... I don't "see" them. I also experience "knowing" things, when knowing is one of the functions that awareness has. It is a direct knowing ... not based on reason or even experience.
daysi: lion, it is interesting you have never doubted the things you experience are only made up in your mind. This must make what you hear/feel so much more easily accessable to you!
daysi: Oh, lion, I have feelings and sensations of vivid colors. When I hear messages I always associate a color with them.
lion: In fact, I can count the number of times I have had visual recall of dreams in my entire life on a single hand. In many ways, my world is a very limited one. Yet in other ways, I live in two worlds, a spiritual one enmeshed with a physical one, and thus far, I haven't spoken with others who have seen much of the spiritual extensions/dimensions.
lion: It seems that I have been given the "ears to hear", but I am still the 62 card in the Tarot, the 8 of Swords, the Lady with the Blinders on. Though this may change SOON, it 1998, I believe.
v: Is it possible to hear a spirit weep?
daysi: lion, I think your sensations/experiences are much different from the rest of us. I think this must make you feel very lonely, that most of the rest of us do not experience Spirit in the same way you do.
daysi: Hi, v!
lion: For the past 3 years, I have known that all of the thoughts in my mind come from elsewhere ... from Spirit. They are not "mine". I have no sense of being their creator. I surely do NOT believe the physical clump of grey matter is anything but a receiver of thoughts that come from a part of me that is spirit herself.
v: Hi daysi
lion: That is my sense of things too daysi. Yet, while I am mainly alone, I also have the incredible comfort of knowing that spirit is there with me always in ways that others do not seem to experience. I have never related much to anyone, my entire 38 years to date, so I really do not have any knowledge of how my experience of reality relates to that of others.
lion: v: I have not heard her do so ... at least not yet.
daysi: lion and v, I have to go. My neighbor seems to be beating his child. (I live in an apartment now)
lion: Namaste Daysi! HAVE A MIRACULOUS NEW YEAR!!!
v: I asked because at one time I had a weeping person I believe a woman are so it seemed that wept after my morning meditation. I could not recognize the source.
v: be careful Namaste
lion: Hmm ... my sense is that such things can indeed occur. Sometimes people who depart the physical plane are able to remain around and create such occurrences in this world. Some of the spiritual dimensions are close enough that such bleed through is possible.
v: I do not understand why I was the one chosen to hear the source. I felt she needed something and I was distressed for her..in a sense. I asked for the light of God to aid her. I did not know what else to do.
lion: Well, I need to be off as well. HAVE A WONDERFUL NEW YEAR!!! In Peace, Love and Light, Wayne
lion: It is always best to trust what comes from within. Your action was quite appropriate. :)
v: Happy New Year Wayne