lion: Are we ready? Namaste ALL!!! Our topic tonight is COMMUNITY. I hope you had a chance to see the log of a forum we had on this about a month ago. In case you haven't, you might want to visit log for forum on community.
lion: Community is a big topic! However, what is important tonight, is what kinds of things we can do together from wherever we are to start to build a community that permits us to be ourselves and better express whom that we are, spirit enfleshed.
lion: Utopian ideas have been with us for centuries, if not millenia. However, ideas are only a starting point. Action is required to bring about manifestation in this world.
lion: We have chosen a time to live in which things can manifest at a pace that is beyond anything imagined in the past. However, it is up to us to take responsibility and start doing things that make a difference. This may be in our immediate families or in our local environs or in a larger world context ... it is all up to us.
lion: At no time in the past has it been so easy for people in various countries throughout the world to communicate and act collectively. The channels are in place, we have only to use them as a medium through which the constructive for of change happens.
lion: I think most if us would agree that peace, harmony, abundance, cooperation, creativity and love characterize the desired world.
thera: :)
Dreamie: Yes...
Susanrose: yes!
wunjo: :)
Sunshine-: yes
Kestrel^: yes
lion: Further, I think most of us believe these words do not describe the current world that we live in.
lion: Cooperatively choosing to create such a world is the key that makes the difference.
Dreamie: Making a conscious effort
lion: Collectively, we are extremely powerful. The changes that our spirits can seed and bring forth in the world are almost beyond imagination. However, these changes will only come forth if we free our spirits to do the work that is needed, trusting that spirit guides us every step of the way.
lion: What would you like to see improved in your life or your world? How specifically can community make a difference?
Susanrose: we guide eachother too lion!
lion: Does it even matter to you?
thera: very much so
thera: contribution of all our gifts
thera: sharing
miKron: yes indeed, lion ,i would say finally a chance to be with the right people to evolve in the right directions :)
Dreamie: I would like to see a world where people didn't always have something negative to point out.....
lion: What kinds of things can we start working together on, to make our community and our world a better place for us, our families, and our spiritual families.
wunjo: I would like to create something here tonight with all of you :)
Dreamie: :)
thera: :)
lion: Yes, miKron. Finding other compatable souls is extremely important!
lion: Understand Dreamie ... especially when the is so much positive that one can focus on.
Wonder: I prefer "example"
lion: wunjo: what do you want to create tonight?
Susanrose: There is a ripple effect in all we do... as we let spirit guide us, the energy inspires others. Wonder: whois wonder
lion: OK Wonder ... let's open it up. What are specific "examples" of what I am talking about, and what we can do?
Ganesha1: are you speaking of concensus Intentional Community
lion: For me, the first step is starting to focus on what I can do for others. I don't have a lot of experience with that.
miKron: we to start look at the ability for us to join here ,on irc , i can feel a really incredible bond with all in this room:)
wunjo: I would like us to agree on something and do it.
lion: But it allows me to extend my boundaries beyond my self and do things that allow others to better express whom and what they are.
thera: I feel if there is anything I can share that is beneficial, I do that, then I honor the other's pathway
Moranaa: Wunjo, what would you like us to agree on?
Dreamie: Yes...i believe we can focus our thoughts, as a group, to make a difference. The power of thought is extremely powerful.
thera: The willingness to share, and to give of ourselves, any of our gifts
wunjo: maybe set up a time and place where we can continue this and create a community
lion: Ganesha: I don't know about "consensus" but yes, an intentional community that we choose to create and be part of.
Moranaa: Agreed Wunjo.
thera: Choice is the KEY word here
Moranaa: Wunjo where do you see physical Community?
lion: thera, YES, sharing and giving of ourselves is very important. That is how SPIRIT is able to express through us. But, we have to allow it to do so.
wunjo: I dont know but it will be fun finding the perfect place
lion: This takes both courage and commitment. Courage, because often we don't know exactly where spirit will take us.
thera: Yes, the moment we allow it to be so, it is. God cannot interfere with free will, we must allow it
Moranaa: Wunjo what state are you in?
wunjo: colorado,it is nice here
lion: Free will is a different topic ... best reserved for another time. You can see many of my ideas on it at Beyond Imagination
thera: "I AM WILLING" to give of
Moranaa: Wunjo, I feel the first key to realizing Community in the physical plane is to Remember we ARE Spirit and can manifest anything that is for our Highest good.
thera: Remembering I AM here to Give Of myself, Not give Up myself
Moranaa: I live in New Mexico (in the Four Corners)
wunjo: yes I believe that and that is what I want everyone to focous on so we can manifest what we want
lion: The bottom line comes down to commitment. What are we willing to DO to create what we want to manifest.
Moranaa: I AM in the physical plane to realize Community with others of my Spiritual Family.
wunjo: we need to agree on what we want to manifest
Moranaa: Yes
thera: First think what we want, and then take action. We must KNOW what we want
Moranaa: However our Desire as Spirit is the same and we will manifest that if we can get out of the way of ourselves (the little me).
wunjo: what is the first thing we should agree on?
Steven: Why not commit to love? and loving?
lion: Money and resources can be difficult ... but the one thing we all have that is free is TIME to apply our abilities and talents.
Joyful: I want peace and harmony among all Americans ... does that count?
Moranaa: Wunjo, to make a plan and put it to paper with goals.
Dreamie: Commit to making a difference with our thought process alone....
thera: UNIVERSAL PEACE
wunjo: ok let's do it
Steven: what about aussies and nzeders
Ganesha1: we should decide if a spiritual community means supporting each other in our spiritual path OR creating a certain ideal for a path
Dreamie: yes thera!!!
Chulosian: hey I'm swedish :=) peace among us also
Dreamie: world peace
Joyful: all we have to do is smile more
lion: Joyful... yes, but why just Americans?
Joyful: and just be kind
Joyful: can't we start here
Joyful: how can we be an example?
thera: I am willing to radiate my LIGHT to ALL
Joyful: if we don't start here
Moranaa: Wunjo, we will need to decide what our goals as Higher BEings are in this and stay focused on that.
thera: Start with SELF
Joyful: People look at us
Ganesha1: so an organization dedicated to the collective dynamic quantum ideal of perpetuating world peace? Joyful: what do they see
Dreamie: it all starts from within
lion: I'm more for supporting one another on whatever paths we choose to express.
Joyful: well then, that is a start
Steven: start in your own hearts it can but express itself
thera: Humans make everything so complicated
Ganesha1: the heart is the center....
wunjo: to help other know themselves
thera: I must know MY self first
Ganesha1: so, an organization that supports the "Heart"
thera: then radiate it out
Steven: yay!
Ganesha1: The Radiating Heart
Dreamie: go team!!!
Kestrel^: yes!!!
Steven: :)
MiaLove: mmmm!
Moranaa: Wunjo, would you agree there is a need to define and clarify what needs to be done in the physical to realize Community?
Joyful: we must keep focused
wunjo: yes!!
Joyful: upward
Ganesha1: community is Gaia...our conciousness is in community every 2 weeks here...and we support each others path and hearts here
wunjo: wow thank you all for being here:) :) :)
Steven: :)
Ganesha1: what more are you talking about wunjo and lion?
Moranaa: Wunjo, there must also be a dedication to the Truth we are all equal and One for Community to work.
Joyful: your welcome wunjo
lion: Joyful, or downward depending our perspective and direction in which spirit is moving.
thera: We need to start with Self, then with our own family unit, then it spreads to our friends and associates, to neighborhood, then city, county, state, country, universe
Ganesha1: spirit spirals anyway
Wonder: Yes. Laughter is very 'light'...:)
Steven: or sideways..............
wunjo: we need to have a plan
Dreamie: Laughter is very healing too...
Ganesha1: what are your ideas Wunjo?
Moranaa: Wunjo...we need to DO the PLAN... :-)
lion: Perhaps thera ... but my personal connections don't involve many of your levels.
Dreamie: As some grow, the inner-child gets lost somehow...it's important to keep that inner-child very much alive...keeping the "spark" ignited
wunjo: yes we do ... what is the plan going to be?
Ganesha1 lights a flame of love in this circle and we all connect on this energetic level
wunjo: we need to start to make it happen help:)
Moranaa: Brainstorming would be appropriate...to decide what the foundation of a physical plan would be.
lion: Moranaa, Understand ... but it seems Spirit only reveal her PLAN as we need to know it.
Ganesha1: what about the concept that it IS already happening
lion: In the meantime, it is up to us to do what we are moved to do in the moment.
wunjo: so we all agree the know thyself is first so what is second
thera: Yes Ganesha I agree with that
gina: lion for years I felt I needed a spiritual centre...and woke up to the fact that my home has been that all along...one extends out and spirit provides
thera: Acting like something is already happening, brings it into a present creation
Dreamie: what if we set a certain amount of time aside each night, before we sleep, coming up with some thought or phrase or prayer...and faithfully say it each night
Moranaa: Lion, as Spirit we are to build a foundation for what is to be Community, talk is nice but it is time to Do a PLAN.
Ganesha1: there is really nothing to do...we are here and it is happening..let's be in a space of happiness about this...perfection is perfection...why do we have to make it better than it already is?
thera: I already have a peaceful family example
Ganesha1: the spirit is alive and here in this moment
thera: I already have a beautiful and perfect spirit
Chulosian: Yes, These Are The End Times, What I have been seing/hearing these last two months reveals that, I don't know if you all can see it?
Moranaa: We are the Spirit in manifest
thera: I am already perfection
lion: Spirit expresses though us in each moment ... it is helpful if we do the work to "Know Thyself" for this allows us to express spirit to an even greater degree.
thera: Until someone told me different
Ganesha1: I am Conciousness
wunjo: Dreamie I like that
Ganesha1: yeah nice...affirmations as collective conciousness awareness works on a very cellular level in this way
wunjo: I want to be with all of you in a physical plase some day
lion: Agree Moranaa ... my sense is that 1997 is The Year of Manifestation. It is indeed time to act!
Dreamie: :)
Moranaa: Lion, I would agree we are to BE in the Moment. However that does not mean you do not build.
thera: I feel the year of 1997 is the year of Empowerment
lion: Agree with build. However, I don't plan. Planning involves focussing on the future, not on NOW.
wunjo: well we need to have focous
Ganesha1: well, iot seems that as a collective group, it would be wise to meditate, ask for grace...write down our experiences...and share at a later date...in order to let the teaching of this gathering process itself
Moranaa: here is my webpage address for anyone interested.
Gwendy: well we do the future with our thoughts and actions of today
Susanrose: Chulosian... if spirit is eternal, and we are spirit, then it is truely not the end times... our true reality has no beginning or endings
thera: yes what I think in this moment creates my future
Moranaa: Lion, the future is dependent on the steps we take in the now.
phoenx: I wrote something today to I wrote this earlier today to Heart-Journey:
Ganesha1: this IS the auspicious moment where all our heart is revealed and we are one in this hereness wunjo: our newsletter would be perfect for that Ganesha1
phoenx: Men are little boys and they hide that fact. They do so by taking on airs and know that projection makes perception. The only hope for men is to receive the woman inside and to incorporate that in their daily lives. It is the key to their Spirituality. Women need to receive the man inside of them and take their rightful place as equals and co-heirs of the Kingdom we live in. As equals, it is possible for consistant Spiritual progression. Without it, we are where we are.
Ganesha1: newsletter wunjo...please elaborate
Dreamie: I've found that my thoughts and dreams from childhood, actually HAVE manifested...so I know the power exists
lion: I don't know that I believe that Moranaa. It is not so clear that such is how the future indeed happens. I would say that we are drawn to take actions now that get us to where spirit has planned for us.
thera: Think it and it is
Steven: i was wondering if today i may share a dream i had??????????
thera: and now it is so accelerated
phoenx: Intend it... and it is.
lion: Do it and it is. Think it and it is still only vibration.
wunjo: we have a newsletter called The Search for Center
Moranaa: We are a part of the plan as Spirit, we are not seperate from our Selves that is illusion and keeps us from Doing our BEing.
Ganesha1: yes, and as a group our collective conciousness has a great light...what is the light we can radiate as a focus exercise during the week...what are ideas...affirmations? ..prayer? ...meditation?....
Dreamie: think it long enough...and hard enough...and it becomes
thera: Everything started with one single thought
Ganesha1: lion, don't underestimate vibration...everything is made manifest by vibration...
Moranaa: Lion, if you are going to build a house don't you have a plan?
thera: A Whim
thera: There needs to be the idea before the action is taken
thera: or else the action could be hasty
lion: You're talking to one who doesn't take credit consciously for creating the thoughts that I experience. EVER.
Ganesha1: ok... Dreamies IDEA.....affirmation daily
Susanrose: Thank you for sharing what you wrote phoenx... very good.
Chulosian: Susanrose, spirits have no endings in that way, but i'm not interacting with you thru my spirit. this is my head and fingers typing. if my head is weak that don't mean my spirit is, but if my head is too weak I can't reveal you my spirit
Dreamie: should we concentrate on a certain area to send this affirmations?? Changing locals??
lion: To me thoughts come from spirit. And very few that I see ever actually manifest.
Moranaa: Lion, you are the author of your thoughts, unless you are being given thoughts by another entity, would you agree?
Ganesha1: well, that is a subject for a whole other forum..."where do thoughts Originate"?
Susanrose: Chulosian...Spirit reveals itself as it chooses
Dreamie: don't know about that lion....
Chulosian: Susanrose: this end i am referring to is a great change or an actuall ending of planet earth. a stop or a change. a big one.
wunjo: lets go back to community
Moranaa: Wunjo, good idea.
lion: No, I do not experience being the author or creator of my thoughts. I hear them in my head. I have no understanding or awareness of where they originate.
gina: if thoughts produce action then making statements about the ending of this planet could create a reality that I for one don't wish to be in on
Ganesha1: yes gina
wunjo: we can post all of your ideas for a community in our newsletter
thera: We cannot choose feelings, but we can choose our thoughts
Moranaa: Wunjo what would you say the first brick in the foundation of Community should be?
thera: Or certainly change our thoughts
wunjo: and then we can see what everyone wants
Susanrose: Lion and wunjo... can you review what has been said to draw some concluding statements???
wunjo: getting everyone to work towards a common goal
lion: Moranaa, it seems that the first brick is establishing some type of social contract that binds us and provides the framework for establishing cooperatively interdependent relationships.
Moranaa: GOOD
wunjo: contract is a plan
lion: Hmm... it seems like we've covered a lot of different things. I'm not sure a few sentences suffices, but I'll take an action to generate a brief summary in the next few days.
thera7: I feel I have made a Vow with my higher power to be the instrument I was put here to be
thera7: Then I trust
Wonder: first step, Know thyself. 2nd step-agreement among Selves.
Ganesha1: well, concensus wise it seems we haven't really agreed on anything except that peace, and love begin in the Heart and that concentrating on Positive affirmations support this collective process
CJoseph: once you know yourself..the agreement is automatic
lion: That's great thera!!!!! I feel a similar calling and commitment. And TRUST is the glue that holds it all together.
thera7: Yes :)
wunjo: Moranaa yes we can do you want to help create a community idea page on our newsletter
Wonder: exactly Ganesha1
wunjo: Ganesha that is why we need to keep this going so we get somewhere
Moranaa: I can submit text to you if you want to do it that way to.
MiaLove: (please excuse the interruption, but I must leave for now. Please keep me informed re:Community* summaries and developments at lovemia@together.net)
lion: Moranaa, Our 3rd Newsletter comes out this week.
Susanrose: Lion, since the topic is community, I would like to paste a letter here before you all leave about the Global community that we are a part... Gaia... ...I will need to leave and come back to paste it... please someone log for this part for me!
wunjo: everyone take this down The Search for Center
wunjo: so I would like all who want to keep discussing this topic to leave there e-mail or give feedback on the newsletter I just posted
Moranaa: Or software like Marianne Williams has on her site to handle messaging.
Susanrose: the gaia mailing list has about 50 names and wolf sends out our invites on his list too
Ganesha1: so is Gaia over..shouldn't we thank our guidance for this opportunity and all our Masters Teachers Loved ones and guides?
Dreamie: So what if we all contribute a thought to an affirmation??
Moranaa: OK
miKron: thanks wunjo and lion for all your light!
wunjo: LOVE TO ALL
Moranaa: Yes, thank you and Blessing.
Ganesha1: I am perfection merged into perfecction
Ganesha1: I am the Light
lion: Namaste All! Thank you for joining us tonight to discuss community. We plan to be doing a lot of work in this area in the coming year. We hope your will join us and be part of our endeavors.
thera7: I AM LOVE
Ganesha1: I am Trust
wunjo: so will all go see our newsletter and keep intouch
Ganesha1: I am Faith
Susanrose: OK..... I want to thank lion and wunjo and all of you! BUT before you all go, I want the soap box for a minute...
Ganesha1: I am Courage and Fearlessness
Moranaa: wunjo, I will leave a mesage for you at your site.
thera7: I AM ALL THAT IS
lion: We hold weekly community forums and post an extensive newsletter each month.
Everyone here is an affirmation: WE are POWERFUL SPIRITUAL BEINGS!
Susanrose: Dannion Brinkley brought back that message to us from beyone
Susanrose: WE ARE POWERFUL Spritual BEINGS!
Dreamie: Earth Angles... making a difference
Sunshine-: being friends
Dreamie: :) Sunshine, and loving
Susanrose: Please everyone... remember this when you hear the paranoia about the hale bopp comet and the photon belt and the aleins coming! Just remember we are powerful spirits
lion: YES, EXTREMELY POWERFUL SPIRITUAL BEINGS. What we do makes all the difference in the world!!!
Ganesha1: ok listening susan
thera7: I AM WILLING TO EXPRESS MY FULL GLORY OF BEING
Susanrose: manifesting love
Dreamie: yes we are....and we are One with the Universe...all is a part of the Universe...there is nothing to fear
Susanrose: through form and light
Sunshine-: and love
Ganesha1: I am filled with and surrounded by Pure White Light..Only Love, Joy, and Truth can come to me and from me
Susanrose: we are spirts in a human experinece, infusing the physical realsms with love
lion: I AM WILLING TO BE AS COMPLETE AN INSTRUMENT FOR SPIRIT AS I CAN BE HERE AND NOW!
Susanrose: all the universe is here to see how we do it!
Dreamie: :) Dreamie loves you all!
Susanrose: we are heros and heroines!
Susanrose: here is a letter that
Ganesha1: we love dreamie
Susanrose: I am going to paste her that answers the question of how to handle all the scarey stories about the ufo's.
We are a LOVING GLOBAL COMMUNITY Many of you who receive this material from me will wonder what has prompted it. Simply this: I received a lengthy email from a large ascension organization announcing the arrival onto our planet of 15 million UFO's manned with no telling how many aliens. Do we want to give away power? Let us look at this from the position of logic rather than emotion and our own intense desire to fly or ascend. Is it not possible that highly evolved beings who know how to navigate the electromagnetic field in such a way as to arrive in our part of the universe by negating space and time, also know how to present us with a compelling proposal concerning interaction with us, a proposal filled with power and beauty and truth. To what end? To land their ships onto our planet? Doesn't this identify these particular aliens as technologically evolved rather than spiritually evolved? Is more technology what we are longing for? Isn't it possible that they are here to learn love from us? Extraterrestrials who are spiritually evolved meet us on the inner planes. This is the appropriate meeting place for such interactions as we are now seeing proposed by these beings who are in these 15 million UFO's. On the inner planes everyone is equal, everyone is safe. No one leads, no one follows. And if anyone feels threatened, they can freely leave. All outer world changes take place first in inner world reality. Evolution comes from the inside out, not the other way around. Dramatic changes occuring first in "outer world" reality represent intrusion and disruption. And if they want to give us something, let them do it from a distance. Let them use their powers of teleportation to assist us, if they are indeed friendly and feel a desire to help us. Let them teleport something useful to us. What are these aliens asking us to do? We are requested to modify our frequency of vibration so as to be able to interact with them and help them. Why must we get with their program? Why can't they get with ours? What is our program? Who are we? We are the people of Earth, the great heart of the solar system. As the people of Earth, we must carefully adapt to our environment. If we work with our own resources, our Earth resources, we will be successful.
WE THE PEOPLE OF GAIA do hereby agree to the unity and power of our hightest spritual attainment! and we will show the universe that we are doing what we have come to do! Why work against Nature? Nature is the World Soul, the Great Mother, the Gaia. It is from Gaia we are born and to Gaia our bodies will return. But we also are her children of Light and Love. With Gaia's help we will build a living light-body of love, a vehicle so beautiful, so loving, made entirely of Light to embrace us and raise us in all ecstasy to our next level of being. And what does it mean to embrace our planet? Does the Earth not sustain us and nurture us? Does the Earth not blow cool breezes across our faces? Does not the Earth shower us with sweet rain and wealth of resources? If we are going away to a higher plane, would we not want to take Gaia with us, considering all she has done for us? Is this perhaps Gaia's greatest hope, her own cherished dream, to ascend with her children?
Think of the things Gaia has taught us. We are masters at living onthis planet and being sustained by it. Now the planet is yearning to teach us how to become masters at sustaining our spirit souls. She offers us her Earth energy, her own Kundalini that courses through her matrix system. She will reveal to us her own chakra centers, the secrets of her fulfilling life in the vast universe. Gaia is a quiet teacher and patient, too. She can wait billions of years, undergo upheaval and continental changes, shift her focus again and again, awaiting our awakening to her living mandala. How can it be, that just at the moment we begin to gain an understanding of ascension and the role we can play in the drama of the universe, we are preparing to fly away from our home in space ships from somewhere else? We are preparing to leave Gaia lonely with her mandala and her unfulfilled dreams. Gaia calls out to us: IF I COULD SHOW IT TO YOU I WOULD! YOU ARE EXPRESSING YOUR SPIRIT SOUL! YOU ARE WALKING YOUR MANDALA! WE ARE THE EARTH! WE ARE THE GREAT HEART OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM! Always remember. And as we change physically, emotionally, spiritually and intellectually, may we maintain our internal sense of balance and our clear vision of who we are and what we can accomplish in our own right. All things are possible in the kingdom WE create. That is the end. It was a letter to the community of the Earth
wunjo: I dont want to leave the earth
Susanrose: I take hope in it
Susanrose: we must use our discernment
Sunshine-: thanks susanrose
Susanrose: and love our earth!
Moranaa: SR, can you e-mail me that to post on my Fidonet message area?
Susanrose: :)
wunjo: I think the earth is going to move up in vibration with us
Susanrose: yes personal and planetary ascension
Susanrose: we will do it together
Moranaa: I believe this too
Sunshine-: yes!!
Susanrose: Thank you Lion, and wunjo for leading... next in 2 weeks novale will lead again